On the Round 3!
Eliminated in Round 1:
Another Midnight
Everytime You Go
Trickle Down
Eliminated in Round 2:
She Didn't Know
When the Weight Comes Down
I'll Believe in You (or I'll be Leaving You Tonight)
Again, choose the song you think is the weakest on the album from those remaining. After 48 hours, the two songs with the most votes will be eliminated and we'll do round four.
Happy voting!
Note - voting will end Saturday at 7:34 Eastern.
Shane
Looks like 'Blow' will win this overall process, due to the bizarre phenomenon of the NOIS haters.
Killer Whale Tank Wrote:Looks like 'Blow' will win this overall process, due to the bizarre phenomenon of the NOIS haters.
yeah... sorry about that :lol:
But is it that you honestly think NOIS is a crap Hip song - or that you think it's overplayed and over-rated? These are two very different issues.
Killer Whale Tank Wrote:But is it that you honestly think NOIS is a crap Hip song - or that you think it's overplayed and over-rated? These are two very different issues.
i've really never been a fan of the studio version, and i only truly enjoyed the live version when they did the extended jam or tried out new material during it. that said, i don't think it has held up to the test of time as well as others have.
mark Wrote:Killer Whale Tank Wrote:But is it that you honestly think NOIS is a crap Hip song - or that you think it's overplayed and over-rated? These are two very different issues.
i've really never been a fan of the studio version, and i only truly enjoyed the live version when they did the extended jam or tried out new material during it. that said, i don't think it has held up to the test of time as well as others have.
I voted for Nois as well. I agree with with what Mark said above. There are songs on uth I rather listen to more than Nois.
I understand some people are tired of it and there's a natural instinct to swim against the current...but sometimes the single really is the best song on the album.
Rob has made some truly great recordings but if he had to play his way into rock heaven, can there be any doubt it's the NOIS riff he would play? I like how everyone else in the band knew to just step aside and let it shine.
In some ways I wonder if it wasn't that song that shaped the band. In some ways, their live show became an extension of it. Throughout the 90's it was the centrepiece of their show. Not only was it the song everyone wanted to hear, but it was the song they seemed to most want to play. They would jam it out for 10 minutes, sometimes playing entire other songs during the bridge.
I'll admit even I grew tired of it as the band seemed to...but only because I remember it when it was Killer Whale Tank great...I was a clean n' scrub man we called each other...in the C n' S union. To see it reduced to just another song in the set was discouraging. But of course there's no way it could be what it was forever.
I was legitimately worried they would never play it again after the flood. So happy they didn't let political correctness deprive us of that song.
Hey NORTH, you're SOUTH, so shut your big mouth!
Oh and I followed through and voted 38...though I'm ok with the Boots votes. For me NOIS/Blow/Opiated are clearly the best 3 songs on the album.
NOIS is to me, equivalent to The Stones Jumpin Jack Flash. Sure it is overplayed and a warhorse in concerts, but you have to look past the overexposure and see it for what it is, a killer CLASSIC song, with a killer guitar riff that everyone recognizes as soon as it is heard.
And just as JJF, I did get tired of hearing it live, definitely would have loved it switched out for some other rarity to pop into a set list, but never truly got tired of the song itself. It will always be in my top ten
Right. I think voting against NOIS is precisely that, an 'against the current' vote caused by over-exposure. The claim that the studio version doesn't stand up against its live history is the sort of claim made by a hard-core fan who can measure different versions against others, etc.. It's like a Rolling Stones fan voting against 'Satisfaction' or 'Gimme Shelter' because the studio version can't compare to something the band generated live with those tunes at some point in their storied career; essentially, a hypertrophied, sated sensibility. But this kind of motivation is unfair to the song, which is, by any measure - lyrics, vocal delivery, guitar interplay, everything but the unfortunately banal drumming - simply a great rock and roll song, and the song in whose absence the Hip might never have become what they became. We owe it to all these recordings, when we assess them, to try to hear them with fresh ears.
andrew sharpe Wrote:In some ways I wonder if it wasn't that song that shaped the band. In some ways, their live show became an extension of it. Throughout the 90's it was the centrepiece of their show. Not only was it the song everyone wanted to hear, but it was the song they seemed to most want to play. They would jam it out for 10 minutes, sometimes playing entire other songs during the bridge.
Well said. Although I don't think it's the best song on the album, for almost a decade it was the beating heart at the centre of their collective songwriting. A heksenketel, a boiling cauldron that gave birth to so many other songs, like something just clicked for the band when they played it live & it gave them the room to play, to explore, to experiment. It was a frame that never failed them no matter how far afield they went. For all the song has given to me as a fan in the way of
other songs I love, NOIS is a sentimental/artistic favourite. One of the top 3 songs on the album fo sho.
I didn't get to see these early years of the Hip live, & for me what that means is I missed that moment when you hear the opening riff of NOIS & know the band is gonna take you on a ride you do not know where. Legendary concert moments, IMO.
chagrinfalls Wrote:andrew sharpe Wrote:In some ways I wonder if it wasn't that song that shaped the band. In some ways, their live show became an extension of it. Throughout the 90's it was the centrepiece of their show. Not only was it the song everyone wanted to hear, but it was the song they seemed to most want to play. They would jam it out for 10 minutes, sometimes playing entire other songs during the bridge.
Well said. Although I don't think it's the best song on the album, for almost a decade it was the beating heart at the centre of their collective songwriting. A heksenketel, a boiling cauldron that gave birth to so many other songs, like something just clicked for the band when they played it live & it gave them the room to play, to explore, to experiment. It was a frame that never failed them no matter how far afield they went. For all the song has given to me as a fan in the way of other songs I love, NOIS is a sentimental/artistic favourite. One of the top 3 songs on the album fo sho.
I didn't get to see these early years of the Hip live, & for me what that means is I missed that moment when you hear the opening riff of NOIS & know the band is gonna take you on a ride you do not know where. Legendary concert moments, IMO.
Yup, that song was legendary throughout the 90s. As soon as you heard Paul's opening riff, the entire crowd would go absolutely bananas and bodies would start flying. Downie did some of his best improvisational work during this song, either telling crazy stories, trying out new lyrics, or new fully fleshed-out songs emerging. NOIS was of course the birth place of Nautical Disaster, which is a moment I'll never forget when I first saw them do it on the '93 ARA tour. It was jaw-droppingly good.
The Hip in the 1990s were among the best live acts in the history of rock and roll - maybe even the best. They absolutely blew the skull off my head.
This has gotten very challenging; looking at what's left and deciding what is the weakest is very challenging as there isn't a single song from this album that I think should have been left on the cutting room floor.
Fantastic discussion and looking forward to how the rest of this (and the other albums) play out.
Shane
Killer Whale Tank Wrote:The Hip in the 1990s were among the best live acts in the history of rock and roll - maybe even the best. They absolutely blew the skull off my head.
Couldn't agree more. At the time they were arguably the most powerful live act on the planet, both in terms of musicianship and entertainment value. There was nobody better. Not to mention the excellent setlist variety in those days. I remember being at ARA '93 in Calgary and being totally blown away by Midnight Oil's performance, and my buddy and I saying to each other, "holy shit, nobody is gonna top that performance". And then the Hip went out and did just that, and the crowd just went nuts. It was clear who the headliner was that night.