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I'm a little baffled at why songs from We Are The Same album were only played once during the tour. The album is outstanding so I wonder why it was marginalized.

Any thoughts on this ?

"Bob Rock ruined The Hip"

No. He didn't

It's the '3rd newest album' lull.

M@W barely got play during the IBE tour, with more songs coming into rotatio again after that tour.

IVL, barely any play during the WC tour.

Etc. Etc.

Maybe I'm off base here.

I am so happy that I caught the show they played it at in Edmonton! That 2009 tour is one of my favorite tours. Caught all four shows at the N. Jubilee Theatre from row 7 to row 1 (when being in the Hip club,the presales could still score you excellent seats). A great summer album.

I like the album, but I got my fill of this material in 2009. Also, something about the album was a bit too poppy for me. WC had a similar sheen in production, but the songs themselves rocked way harder than the majority of WATS. I think this album and NFPA should've been played the least. Not sure why Plan A got 3 plays and IVL only got 2. But I'm thankful I went to Toronto night 2 instead of 3.

heard bob baker say that for the 2 bob rock produced cds ONE turned out good

IMNSHO love both bob rock cds

Haven't crunched the numbers, but I'm pretty sure IBE and NFPA were also heavily under-represented on this tour. I think that's too bad - not that I'm complaining - because those are both excellent records, much deserving of more time in the sun than they've generally received.

The thing is, in the show I attended and every show that I watched footage of, there is a noticeable drop in audience energy during the songs from MMP. The fact is, a lot of people in those crowds did not know those songs, or else did not particularly care about them. To give substantial air-time to *another* album that the crowd is unlikely to care much about would probably unwise, from a sheer 'showmanship' perspective. Otherwise put, their commitment to giving time to MMP was bound to crowd out the less popular later albums, irrespective of their merits.

(I disagree with Baker: I think WC is the one unmitigated debacle in the Hip's catalogue, while WATS is uneven but has many sparkling moments).

I just crunched the numbers in the tour stats thread -
Honestly I think they wanted to represent the whole catalog on the tour but considering the songs they played from WATS it would have been a pretty big dip in energy half way through the set - not a criticism of the songs but Morning Moon, Now The Struggle Has A Name, Coffee Girl and The Last Recluse aren't exactly songs that get the blood boiling.

Makes me wonder why they didn't choose more upbeat and rocking songs from WATS, like Queen of the Furrows or Love is a First. Might have made a difference.

As appreciative and grateful i am for everything The hip has done. I find it awfully depressing that for the Kingston show they didn't play anything during the 15 year gap between M@W & MMP. I wonder if they felt they needed to.

I'm just putting that down and slowly backing away.

For Kingston, I think maybe they should have broken their set format and played 1 song from each 2000s album mindset. My Music at Work, Its a Good Life, Gus, In View, Love is a First and Man Machine Poem. I'm not sure they needed 4 songs off M@W. I wouldn't say Toronto #4 and Putting Down are essential tracks by any means.

Tomacco Wrote:I wouldn't say Toronto #4 and Putting Down are essential tracks by any means.

Toronto#4 is one of my top 10 favourite Hip songs so I was really happy to have heard it in Toronto

i have tried many many times, and i simply cannot get through WATS. IVL ranked as my least favorite album for a long time.... WATS bumped it out of the first position, though

sherpa Wrote:I just crunched the numbers in the tour stats thread -
Honestly I think they wanted to represent the whole catalog on the tour but considering the songs they played from WATS it would have been a pretty big dip in energy half way through the set - not a criticism of the songs but Morning Moon, Now The Struggle Has A Name, Coffee Girl and The Last Recluse aren't exactly songs that get the blood boiling.

But they are excellent songs.


Although we got IBE in Ottawa, was thrilled beyond belief to get Summer, Gus and Nashville, was dreading the possibility of M@W in that spot. Happy missed it by one show ;-) It's a decent album, but the title track is perhaps my least fave Hip tune, and they weren't playing Freak Turbulence this tour, which is incredible. (I'll need to double check your terrific stats page, thanks for that!)

I loved PP when it came out, including Poets and Bob-c, but now for me theyre just overplayed live (yes I was addicted to periscope during the tour). So many PP deep cuts I knew we weren't getting at CTC, Membership, Emperor, Rules, Trails...but thrilled with IBE, although the hit fans were casing the beer lines..