[Summiteer]

Ahoy, just thought I'd give it up for Reagan, I know the man was no saint and alot people hated his :censored gutz but I thought the old coot had alot of character. He showed he had some sack with the Sovietz. What do you Americanz think of Ronny's accomplishmentz or do the Bad outweigh the good he's done? Anyway's RIP Gipper.

[Stephen Dame]

A colossal figure in the history of the late 20th century.

Not a fan, but certainly deserving of rememberance.

RIP, Gipper. I'm sure he and the family are, if not simply relieved, at least at peace. Nobody should have to suffer like that, and Nancy was heroic in her dedication to her man in his "long journey."

Irish eyes are crying.

[prz]

RIP Gipper. I am sure this brings to an end of what must of been a huge challenge for the Regan family to deal with over the last few years as his condition worsened.

[The Heron Outside]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

[grooveless touque]

That's weird, Heron...somehow that reminds me of a much more recent President...I just can't put my finger on it.

:p

[Stephen Dame]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

[thipfan73]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

Yeah, thanks for insulting my entire country. Thank god I was too young to vote for him.

[Stephen Dame]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

Yeah, thanks for insulting my entire country. Thank god I was too young to vote for him.

Yeah, at times like these partisanship needs to take a back seat. We're not all fans, but we can all, I hope, be respectful.

Former Canadian PM, and good Bush/Reagan friend Brian Mulroney, will be one of the Pal Bearers. The idea of a sunset funeral is just gorgeous.

[CanuckCourage]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

Nothing classless about it, why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them, because they are famous ? Because they were the President ? Summiteer asked what people thought of him and Heron responded with what he felt. We idolize our leaders way too easily, which is perfect for them. I won't blink an eye when Mulroney takes his permanent vacation.

[thipfan73]

Yeah, at times like these partisanship needs to take a back seat. We're not all fans, but we can all, I hope, be respectful.

Former Canadian PM, and good Bush/Reagan friend Brian Mulroney, will be one of the Pal Bearers. The idea of a sunset funeral is just gorgeous.

I agree, I'm a republican but was raised a democrat, and switched parties because of Clinton, whom I voted for TWICE, and now I'm getting ticked off with the republican party and I'm ready to go back to being a liberal. Yes, I voted for Bush and I was for the Iraq war till the whole thing fell apart and now I can't stand him.

I was young when Reagan was in office, but I do remember he was a great leader and believe it or not he is one of our most loved presidents.

I will always be fond of him, he lead us through many tough times, like the Iran hostages, and the Iran-Iraq war, beiruit, the Challenger disaster. He also started the end of the cold war.

I will always be fond of "Dutch"

why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them,

because he was human? Reagan is a man close to my heart because he had alzheimers and that is what my paternal grandmother died of and my remaining grandmother's life is being destroyed by the disease.

[Stephen Dame]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

Nothing classless about it, why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them, because they are famous ? Because they were the President ? Summiteer asked what people thought of him and Heron responded with what he felt. We idolize our leaders way too easily, which is perfect for them. I won't blink an eye when Mulroney takes his permanent vacation.

You just proved my point. Class, and apparently respect, are not inherent.

It's called an appropriate pause. It applies to everybody from your grandfather to the President of the United States. It's got nothing to do with politics, but a lot to do with human decency.

Was this the best forum for your political opinions?

Here, I'll help you: No.

[CanuckCourage]

why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them,

because he was human? Reagan is a man close to my heart because he had alzheimers and that is what my paternal grandmother died of and my remaining grandmother's life is being destroyed by the disease.

I respect your view, opinion and experience, but my question was directed at Stephen and his judging of Heron. I stand by "why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them" I am not saying you or anyone else is showing false emotion, but opposite views on Reagan are held by some, they should not be silenced because they do not fall into the majority or "classy".

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

Classy.

Nothing classless about it, why pretend to like someone, why pretend to feel anything for them, because they are famous ? Because they were the President ? Summiteer asked what people thought of him and Heron responded with what he felt. We idolize our leaders way too easily, which is perfect for them. I won't blink an eye when Mulroney takes his permanent vacation.

You just proved my point. Class, and apparently respect, are not inherent.

It's called an appropriate pause. It applies to everybody from your grandfather to the President of the United States. It's got nothing to do with politics, but a lot to do with human decency.

Was this the best forum for your political opinions?

Here, I'll help you: No.

Since you are in the mood for lecturing, take this one to heart. I'll give you a hand, since you seem to be lacking the ability to comprehend a question when it's asked . This is not a "I Love Reagan Site" so don't be shocked when someone disagrees with your view. If you can't handle it, go to a political site where you can wax poetic about his life, while ignoring anything negative. I assume you will take an "appropriate pause" when Saddam Hussein passes , or Clifford Olson , they are human , and they will die. I know, they are not the same right ? Apples and oranges ? Then obviously respect is not inherent. Respect is in the eye of the beholder. I will not "pause" to simply appease you , or anyone , Summit asked a question and Heron answered it , who are you to judge his opinion ? Had Heron gone on about the political virtues of Reagan , would you have responded with "classy" ? Differ of opinion does not dictate class..Don't try and impose your will on others with ridicule, trying to stifle dialogue with a personal attack because you don't like anothers perspective. .Last time I looked freedom of speech was a staple of this site , this is a political question Summit raised , whether intentional or not... I will respect and honour when it's due , for whom I feel it's due, I will not chastise another if they do not agree with me, especially if I ask the question "What did you think of this person ?" Do not try and impose your moralistic stance on me with nothing but the aim to degrade, that shows a lack of class and respect .

Mark

[VioletlightHeron]

I dont think its a matter of whether you agree or disagree about a political leader's policies, but more of a showing some respect for his passing. It's kinda like saying you're glad the guy is dead,not even caring that his family is mourning his passing. You wouldnt do that for somebody in your community that you disliked because they had opposing views than you, would you? It doesnt matter if the person who has passed on is Jean Chretien, Ronald Reagan or Mao Tse-tung. You can disparage their policies and actions, but dont disparage their humanity.

[TLB]

Heaven is a better place today (errr, I mean the other day, Saturday).
RIP Reagan.

[prz]

Reagan was nothing more than a figure-head, brought in by those who knew he had some charm and could be adored by the American public. He may have shown sack with the Soviets, but I doubt anyone wouldn't have at that time. It was the string-pullers who brought in this adored face while billions and billions were foolishly spent on arms...

You are dead wrong on that anyone could have brought down the Soviets. You need to go back and read some articles and journals from the time he came to power. Specifically, 1981-84. In fact, many thought the Soviets were stronger than ever, and many in the West believed the US was falling behind in the cold war race for supremacy. In light of this, it was Reagan and his administration that saw the need to intensify the arms race which would ultimately crush the Soviets. Since they did not have the ability to keep up.