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General Election 2006
#1

Stephen Harper rose today around 10:20am in the House of Commons and presented a motion, seconded by Jack Layton, that declared that the House has no confidence in the government. In all likelihood, this motion will be voted through on Monday the 28th with an election date being set for Monday 9 January 2006.

Thoughts and comments? Get ready to mark that X!

Jeff

June 21, 2003 Toronto, ON: SkyDome
July 1, 2004 Toronto, ON: Molson Amphitheatre
November 26, 2004 Toronto, ON: Air Canada Centre
June 24, 2006 Toronto, ON: Historic Fort York
May 10, 2007 Indianapolis, IN: The Vogue
July 14, 2011 Edmonton, AB: Northlands Festival Site
June 30, 2012 Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON: The Commons at Butler's Barracks
January 23, 2013 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
July 28, 2016 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
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#2

No surprise....I'll bet the vote leads to almost the same minority as we have now. The NDP is polling high now, but that usually collapses out of fear for the Conservative leader du jour.
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#3

I'm going to make you feel sick. You agree with Ralph Klein. He says that Harper is perceived as "too right" (but in Canadian terms, anything non-Liberal is too something). The Tories may gain a minority government in this election - but that will also be short lived and then the public will elect another Liberal majority. Either way, this country is stuck with the Liberals. It's very much like the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan.

Jeff

June 21, 2003 Toronto, ON: SkyDome
July 1, 2004 Toronto, ON: Molson Amphitheatre
November 26, 2004 Toronto, ON: Air Canada Centre
June 24, 2006 Toronto, ON: Historic Fort York
May 10, 2007 Indianapolis, IN: The Vogue
July 14, 2011 Edmonton, AB: Northlands Festival Site
June 30, 2012 Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON: The Commons at Butler's Barracks
January 23, 2013 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
July 28, 2016 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
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#4

If the Conservatives can elect a leader that seems less like a midget dictator and more like a legitimate choice that speaks for the majority of Canadians then they could easilly bring down the Liberals and decisively.

Until then...
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#5

Stephen Harper's an idiot. I'd vote for Ralph Klein, though. Too bad the conservatives cant appeal to the ontario vote.

Right now, I might go NDP or Liberal, just to assure that the conservatives dont win, or if they do, that they at least hold a neutered minority government with Jack Layton getting most of the work done.

Jack Layton is da man. Slick without conveying a sense of not being in touch with the people. Articulate, etc.

Screw Stephen Harper.

No conservative will get my vote while Stephen Harper is within 500 metres of Parliament Hill.

We're talking about a potential prime minister who refused to revoke the nomination of Markham-Unionville Conservative candidate Joe Li for referring to immigrants as "garbage."

'Nuff said about the party, in my opinion. They've elected a leader who is so inept, his vision so narrow, that it appears he cannot effect the overthrow of an obviously corrupt Liberal government. Moreover, he can't even convince his own party faithful that he is the right man for the job.
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#6

hotmetal401 Wrote:If the Conservatives can elect a leader that seems less like a midget dictator and more like a legitimate choice that speaks for the majority of Canadians then they could easilly bring down the Liberals and decisively..

No, because the conservatives are no longer relevant in this society.
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#7

fingernailsonhull Wrote:I'm going to make you feel sick. You agree with Ralph Klein.

As a non-politics guy, what's wrong with Ralph (other than drunkenly berating homeless people)? I've only been in Alberta two years, but I LOVE the way this province is run. No deficits, no PST, prosperity cheques, low unemployment..... What more could you want?
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#8

longseason Wrote:Jack Layton is da man. Slick without conveying a sense of not being in touch with the people. Articulate, etc.

The odd thing about Layton is how similar he is, in his style, to Stockwell Day: the suits, the ties, the endless smile, the used-car salesman look. Too slick, I would say.

The difference is that he's managed to prove himself over the past few months, which Day never did. Day could never get past the superficial, and actually reinforced the impression that he was shallow with dumb PR stunts like the wetsuit appearance. Layton has at least been able to show that there is something under the slickness.
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#9

Well said.
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#10

Jack Layton doesn't have good ideas. His idea of helping Canada is giving out handouts. Fiscal responsibility is just a pair of words to him.
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#11

beanmedic Wrote:
hotmetal401 Wrote:If the Conservatives can elect a leader that seems less like a midget dictator and more like a legitimate choice that speaks for the majority of Canadians then they could easilly bring down the Liberals and decisively..

No, because the conservatives are no longer relevant in this society.

huh??
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#12

sherpahigh Wrote:
beanmedic Wrote:
hotmetal401 Wrote:If the Conservatives can elect a leader that seems less like a midget dictator and more like a legitimate choice that speaks for the majority of Canadians then they could easilly bring down the Liberals and decisively..

No, because the conservatives are no longer relevant in this society.

huh??

I echo that "huh??", and contend that bean is way off base on this one.

Conservatives are as relevant as they've ever been. Part of the reason consevative parties haven't broken through in Canada over the last few years is that, for most Canadians, things have been good (or at least not bad) economically and socially. There seems to be no overriding recession or other crisis that has people worried. In that sort of environment, people tend to stick with the safe choice, the tried and true. In Canada, that means the Liberal party. It is possible that Canadians could be better off had the Conservatives been elected before now, but it can't be proven, and it has proved remarkably easy for the ruling Liberals to scare a significant portion of the electorate into thinking Conservative party rule will actually damage the country. I'm not sure that tactic will work any more... provided of course that the Conservatives don't repeat the same mistakes they've made in past elections (and there have been more than a few).

And I don't understand those who say Stephen Harper is a "midget dictator" or other such things. He seems to me to be a committed, hard-working, honest politician with a lot of good ideas and a lot of integrity. He is of course not perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than that buffoon Stockwell Day.

Anyway, I hope that too many people don't adopt the "Screw the Vote" sentiment raised by hotmetal because I think this will be one of the most important elections in Canada's recent history... but I can understand it in some ways, because I also think the campaign has the potential to be one of the nastiest ever. Regardless, it should be interesting for political junkies everywhere.
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#13

If I'm Paul Martin, and on at least three occaisions per day I thank God I'm not, I'd have gone to Rideau Hall (hit on the GG) and dissolved Parliament today.

He thinks that by making the Opp's force a Christmas election, people will buy into the blame game and be angry at them. Problem is, campaigns are won and lost on TV and images.

On Monday, the image that kicks off this campaign will be one of the House of Commons tossing papers in the air, clapping, cheering and being largely celebratory. People won't think "those nasty Opposition guys" they'll think "those guys look happy, they won something, they musta done this for a good reason." Scott Reid's "blame" message will be totally lost. Seems like strategy 101 to me. But it wouldn't be the first time they've blown that.

Campaigns happen on TV nowadays anyway, if people want to ingnore an X-mas election, all they have to do is turn off the set.

Anyway, Harper has proven he's the king of foot-in-mouth disease by falsely linking the mob to the Liberals. Keep 'em coming Steve-O! Hey, don't ya think Paul Martin's too ugly to be PM? You should run an ad.
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#14

I hear you Dame. My guess is that Harper was alluding to the fact that Gomery himself said during the inquiry that this was very much like money laundering. At any rate, there's enough mud on the Liberal Party already for Harper to point out. It's not like he needs to find more to sling. Martin's demand for an apology was just pathetic, however. At any rate, as excited as I am as a Poli Sci student about a coming election, it's going to be about everything except policy. That's disappointing. It amazes me that people still buy into this "Harper is the devil" idea. It's ludicrous. I don't care for the NDP or Jack Layton, and that's putting it nicely. But, I don't think he's the worst thing to happen to Canadian politics. What really boiled me was that (I watched CPAC live on Thursday morning) Harper's speech in the Commons was about something, it rightfully pointed out Liberal corruption. Tony Valeri's speech was the usual Liberal gobbledygook. "Liberals love Canadians, we are the only ones looking out for the economy and the Conservatives are a bunch of right-wing nut jobs who want to slaughter and eat your children." I'm so tired of this garbage. Just vote them out so they give their heads a shake.

Jeff

June 21, 2003 Toronto, ON: SkyDome
July 1, 2004 Toronto, ON: Molson Amphitheatre
November 26, 2004 Toronto, ON: Air Canada Centre
June 24, 2006 Toronto, ON: Historic Fort York
May 10, 2007 Indianapolis, IN: The Vogue
July 14, 2011 Edmonton, AB: Northlands Festival Site
June 30, 2012 Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON: The Commons at Butler's Barracks
January 23, 2013 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
July 28, 2016 Edmonton, AB: Rexall Place
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#15

Actual sentence from a CP story today: "Finance Minister Ralph Goodale told the Commons today that Conservatives are mean."

Man, this one's gunna be fun. Smile
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